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**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 10:34 AM // 10:34

Ok, that was all I saw too (never used twiter so no idea what I should have been seeing).

I do know that I was playing just a while ago just fine....logged off to watch some tv and then logged back in to look if my birthday minis had shown up---and well 4 of my accounts are now banned for botting--since I have never done pvp (aside from the carto--and with one of the accounts that is NOT banned) and rarely jq and barely play for more than 1 hour at a time, not quite sure what botting I would have even done? Unless playing on 2 computers with 2 accounts is now against EULA (I was running my account thru the vanquish of tannaki temple with only one having the emperor quest ...)...not sure if running is now a violation of EULA as well.

or if they are just trying to get rid of everyone playing so that they can close the servers down.....

Bellatrixa · Jan 30, 2015, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Ok so is Multiclinet WMware based? since

Shazbawt: "Trying to think of legitimate reasons for running games on VMWARE besides botting" 27. jan. 2015

What an idiot. How about being your own gate monkey in pre? Storage? Main two reasons I run two accounts. I like being able to turn in Nick on both accounts, my second account holds a guild I use to dump alternate faction to my main. Has he even played GW1? There are PLENTY of legit reasons to use multilaunch in GW1 other than botting, hence why it was bloody developed. Might as well ask why people have multiple accounts instead of buying extra character slots (and I know the answers to that one, don't worry).

BadOwnZu · Jan 30, 2015, 10:40 AM // 10:40

https://twitter.com/Shazbawt/status/556678245530087424

Another prime example of the guy who's inducing all these bans and his maturity level..

Guild Wars is practically finished, unfortunately.

Remove link/post If deemed against gwguru ToS

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 10:46 AM // 10:46

I dont use multilaunch. I use more than one computer to play...I have 4 now that I can play on--and have used 3 of them in the last week to do so. AND I am actively sitting in front of two of them right now (and can play on both--one not so good since its only xp sp1)....still doesnt explain why of my 6 accounts 4 were banned (all of which I access from my main computer) and 2 are not (they dont have eye of the north--one is factions only).

Smoke Nightvogue · Jan 30, 2015, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Ok so is Multiclient WMware based? since

Shazbawt: "Trying to think of legitimate reasons for running games on VMWARE besides botting" 27. jan. 2015

What he refers to as VMWARE is really a different case apart from just using Multi-Launch, and should not be confused with the latter. Virtual machines is what the most clever syncers/botters employ in order to hide the hardware IDs, as otherwise, Code=045 would have gotten them way sooner.

take_me · Jan 30, 2015, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

I dont use multilaunch. I use more than one computer to play...I have 4 now that I can play on--and have used 3 of them in the last week to do so. AND I am actively sitting in front of two of them right now (and can play on both--one not so good since its only xp sp1)....still doesnt explain why of my 6 accounts 4 were banned (all of which I access from my main computer) and 2 are not (they dont have eye of the north--one is factions only).

It's really getting out of hand. I do believe you and I do believe others (not all) that they only ever played on multiple accounts and did nothing wrong. Why would they ban people now for that? It's been at least 6 years that people use multiple accounts on the same or on different computers.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 11:04 AM // 11:04

I really dont get it either....I know that one of the accounts that I still can play on did the carto (discussed earlier), but my main did none of that ever--only texmod (no low level characters to get to those arenas on my main). So I am completely beside myself as to what the &%@* is going on besides them wanting to ban everyone so they can shut down the servers....

Nekodesu · Jan 30, 2015, 11:43 AM // 11:43

My accounts are fine, I've used MultiLaunch, GWDressUp, TEXMOD & GWCamUnlocker. On all my accounts, for years. So have everyone I know, and they haven't been banned either.

If you go into PvP with multiple accounts it's gonna tag your account.

Smoke Nightvogue · Jan 30, 2015, 12:14 PM // 12:14

cosyfiep, if you're actually seeking a solution for this problem of yours, I'd recommend contacting Guild Wars Support and then settling it down with them privately, as whatever is the exact case, they'll look into it.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 12:16 PM // 12:16

I have never done pvp ! My main account doesnt even have a pvp character. A few weeks ago a few of us did low level arenas carto --but my main account did NOT participate and one of my non-banned accounts DID--more than one arena too. (I have no now level characters on my main account).
I have multiple computers I play on, so you are saying that I can not play with say, my husband (who happens to live in my home and has his own account)? Or that I can not play with my other accounts on different computers IF I am sitting in front of them (which I am)....

(and yes, I have a ticket in with support--but seeing as NONE of the gw people are getting answers I dont see them as ever getting back to me about this)

Smoke Nightvogue · Jan 30, 2015, 12:24 PM // 12:24

I'm not saying anything besides what I said, though what you described could possibly qualify as a breach of RoC (the 24th article of it), and again, it's only the Guild Wars Support Team who could judge its severity or adjust the period of the blocks.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 12:29 PM // 12:29

If that was the case then only 3 of my accounts participated in that breach--and one of those is NOT banned, and one of my accounts that did not IS.

Bellatrixa · Jan 30, 2015, 12:36 PM // 12:36

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Originally Posted by Smoke Nightvogue

What he refers to as VMWARE is really a different case apart from just using Multi-Launch, and should not be confused with the latter.

I think the real question is if Shazbawt knows the difference... His tweets don't give me much confidence.

jayson · Jan 30, 2015, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

just got the same message...only used texmod...NEVER even been to ab (I am my alliance--me and my other accounts), only did jq a few times.....think they are just getting rid of everyone now--great way to end the game (still have my factions only account though...guess I will play on that until they decide it also botted).

I'm curious but did you do carto with Bristlebane in either JQ or FA?

ACWhammy · Jan 30, 2015, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Title Points R Us

AC Can I log your acc please I...

No, sorry. I can't even log into my account LOL

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Originally Posted by Linksys

Sounds like you had interaction for a while with a possible sociopath.

This could very well be true.

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Originally Posted by Cleavage

Keys are keys no matter where you purchase them from. Don't be a "legitimacy sucker" finding yourself spending 2x, 3x, to even 4x with the in game store price vs other sites/outlets.

Letting this be out there so people can be informed vs misinformed.

If you buy a Guild Wars key, no matter where you buy it from, and it works....... it's legit.

I'm not entirely sure this is true. Read Rule #3 in the User Agreement. http://legal.guildwars.com/en/gw-user-agreement-en.pdf

Arenanet has only these retailers listed as authorized, and I wouldn't advise purchasing from anywhere else: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/retail...tates-physical

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

I heard ppl are getting banned for multiclienting now? is that true?

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Originally Posted by BadOwnZu

I just got perma'd when only program I have ever used is Multi Launch lol, and my ban reason is "Third Party Program"

so yeah.

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Originally Posted by Nekodesu

No. Nobody has ever, with any proof been able to prove they got banned by running two clients at the same time.

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

just got the same message...only used texmod...

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Originally Posted by Bellatrixa

How about being your own gate monkey in pre? Storage? Main two reasons I run two accounts. I like being able to turn in Nick on both accounts, my second account holds a guild I use to dump alternate faction to my main. Has he even played GW1? There are PLENTY of legit reasons to use multilaunch in GW1 other than botting, hence why it was bloody developed. .

Ok here is Arenanet's official stance on third-party programs and Multip-boxing in general.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...-Boxing-Macros

"Our general policy is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden"

Opening the gate for yourself in pre-searing is an advantage. Running one of your characters accounts through a mission with another one of your accounts is an advantage. Using Texmod is an advantage. Using GW dressup is an advantage.

In fact, multi-boxing in-and-of itself provides a distinct advantage over someone who can not or does not multibox.
It really depends on what they define as "advantage." If they start saying these things aren't advantageous they start heading down a slippery slope.

Emily Diehl, Arenanet's Community and Content Manager, has been quoted as saying "We checked and have been told that the following mods are ok: KSmod, GWstats, Texmod, and Multilaunch." However this was nearly 5 years ago and who knows now.

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

Ok so is Multiclinet WMware based? since

Shazbawt: "Trying to think of legitimate reasons for running games on VMWARE besides botting" 27. jan. 2015

I don't have a Twitter account so someone please respond to this nerd for me. Some people use Virtual Machines to download things to protect their pc from viruses. A simple internet search on the use of Virtual Machines will bring up various articles:

"Whichever VM you select, the VM cannot cross the software boundaries set in place. For example, a virus might infect a computer when executed and spread to other files in the OS. However, a virus executed in a VM will spread through the VM but not affect the underlying actual OS."

"YOU will be safe, the virtual machine deletes everything when you shut it down. it doesn't save anything. This virtual machine move is to create sandbox safety - whatever you do in the sandbox stays in the sandbox - your main system is insulated from what goes on in the sandbox. Thats what drives this application - security. "

**cosyfiep** · Jan 30, 2015, 06:50 PM // 18:50

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Originally Posted by jayson

I'm curious but did you do carto with Bristlebane in either JQ or FA?

no, I have barely even been in either of them--I did a few runs on my paragon a few months ago to get rid of the zaishen thing (MANY years ago we used to organize jq and fa carto, but that was before imperial faction even). And I got the quest reward for getting one of my characters there --but didnt enter battle. The carto we did was in ascalon arena, shiverpeak arena, shingjea arena and the one off of kamadan--and as I mentioned one of the accounts that I used for that was NOT banned while my main (which cant access those areas because no low level characters--and has only done wintersday snowball fights) was and it didnt help out.

Been trying to figure out what else those accounts have in common that the other does not--they all have eye--and I know I did the mpb quest on 3 of them during wintersday, but not the 4th (did it for the ccshards)..but I didnt use a bot, I sat there and watched the grentches and snowmen kill each other off each time.

and arent bots only used for pvp? (since I have never done pvp I am not sure)....wouldnt they be able to check that I have never done pvp on those accounts? (not that they are going to, but still)

xiounaiw · Jan 30, 2015, 07:09 PM // 19:09

im on too today

i only used gwdressup (from Argos site), texmod (from gw wiki) & gw multi lauch (from guru) this last 2 months back on the game (i switched on LoL in 2009).

feel free to trust me or not, who cares.
guildwars was funny, RiP now. Have Fun all !

jayson · Jan 30, 2015, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

no, I have barely even been in either of them--I did a few runs on my paragon a few months ago to get rid of the zaishen thing (MANY years ago we used to organize jq and fa carto, but that was before imperial faction even). And I got the quest reward for getting one of my characters there --but didnt enter battle. The carto we did was in ascalon arena, shiverpeak arena, shingjea arena and the one off of kamadan--and as I mentioned one of the accounts that I used for that was NOT banned while my main (which cant access those areas because no low level characters--and has only done wintersday snowball fights) was and it didnt help out.

Been trying to figure out what else those accounts have in common that the other does not--they all have eye--and I know I did the mpb quest on 3 of them during wintersday, but not the 4th (did it for the ccshards)..but I didnt use a bot, I sat there and watched the grentches and snowmen kill each other off each time.

and arent bots only used for pvp? (since I have never done pvp I am not sure)....wouldnt they be able to check that I have never done pvp on those accounts? (not that they are going to, but still)

Any of the carto you did with him, was he using multiple accounts at the time to make sure you had enough people to enter? It seems to me that anything pvp related is tying groups together even if the majority of people were only along for the ride so to speak. It genuinely sucks because we all know that these areas are impossible to map without enough players, and Anet has made no effort to allow pve players to explore the arenas. Would've been simple enough to have an arena guard let you go in explore on your own.

cantalus · Jan 30, 2015, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Belle Dwayna

Honestly I hope he's not really the game security leader, he looks like a little child to who we gave a candy...

One example of his tweet :

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/...-ecran-122.png

his tweets don't give me much confidence in anet's ability to choose a mature and reasonable person to decide who has commited banable offences

however, until someone with enough resources to take a games company to court over something like a ban, there isn't much one can do directly

Lynie · Jan 30, 2015, 07:57 PM // 19:57